How We Got Nitrous Oxide in a U.S. Hospital - Podcast with Amy's Notes!

Published: Fri, 04/14/17

Dear Readers, 

Here is the podcast of my interview with Marie Walters, the clinical nurse specialist (CNS) responsible for organizing and implementing a nitrous oxide protocol for the birth center at Gundersen Lutheran Hospital in La Crosse, WI, the first one in our state (about 300 U.S. hospitals now have NO).  

This twelve minute podcast answers the questions about what it takes to get a program up and running; how many people it took to be actively involved and write protocols (14!), how it affected the use of other pain medications, and patient experiences.  

Below is a page of notes from the interview just for Doulaing The Doula newsletter subscribers!  
I hope you enjoy the interview and find it valuable enough to share!


Youtube: Nitrous Oxide Use in Labor by Perinatal Foundation
WAPC Nitrous Oxide Podcast Outline
On behalf of the Wisconsin Association for Perinatal Care (WAPC), April 2016

Dr. Amy Gilliland interviewed Marie Walter*, then the Clinical Nurse Specialist at Gundersen Lutheran Hospital’s birth center in La Crosse, who organized and implemented the first nitrous oxide program in Wisconsin.

0:00 – 1:30 Introductions and opening remarks

1:30 – What was it like to implement this, Marie? 
            “A lot like herding cats!”
            An interdisciplinary Collaborative Practice Committee decided on the project.

            What was the impetus? 
            An obstetrician had heard about nitrous oxide use at an ACOG conference a few years before. The             midwifery program was interested and we decided to go ahead.

            It took only five months from idea to implementation - everyone worked together. 

3:30 – Who needed to be involved with planning and approving the NO program?

            We started with a core group of seven: OB/GYN physicians, Family Practice physicians, Midwifery,             Labor and Delivery manager, Pediatrics, Anesthesia, L & D nurse educator, Quality Inspection             representative

            But then seven other people needed to be included:  Safety officer/manager; Charge master analyst;             HUC representative; HIM or EHR rep to create standing orders; Pharmacy; Logistics (storage of             equipment)

5:30     Anesthesia quickly decided they didn’t need to be involved.  Why not?

6:35     Patient experiences with nitrous oxide

8:00     Rules for use

8:40     How does having nitrous oxide available affect the use of other medications?
            Gundersen Lutheran has a 45-50% epidural rate to begin with. 

11:00 What other interventions or side effects are needed with nitrous oxide use?


Youtube: Nitrous Oxide Use in Labor by Perinatal Foundation

Not in the Podcast but in Amy's notes from WAPC Conference session:
  
1.  Nurses from other WI hospitals stated that the Anesthesia department is usually the stumbling block in getting NO available because of fear of loss of income due to lowered epidural use. However, so far in the U.S. most hospitals with a 50% epidural rate show little change.  
[Amy:  I'm curious about hospitals with an 80% epidural rate - I wonder if they experience a decrease? Or if the fear of loss of income keeps it from being available so we can find out.]  

2. Nitrous oxide can be used when laboring person is in the shower or bathtub. 
3.  An anesthesia consult is not necessary for NO use. It is consider within the nurse's scope of practice. 
4.  Every shift needs a NO champion to answer questions and bolster confidence of coworkers. 

*More about Marie Walter, MS, RN, C-EFM, CPLC here: http://www.gundersenhealth.org/resolve-through-sharing/about-us/
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